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		<title>By: david</title>
		<link>http://shepherdtheflock.com/2008/09/20/controversy-and-pulled-magazines-over-female-pastors/comment-page-2/#comment-3514</link>
		<dc:creator>david</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 07:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you have not already read this book, please take the time to read it. I hope it helps open your mind and heart as it did mine.</description>
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		<title>By: Thomas Twitchell</title>
		<link>http://shepherdtheflock.com/2008/09/20/controversy-and-pulled-magazines-over-female-pastors/comment-page-2/#comment-2236</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Twitchell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 02:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A fools continuous rambling: &lt;blockquote&gt;Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. And a person&#039;s enemies will be those of his own household. Whoever loves father or mother more than me is not worthy of me, and whoever loves son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me...Do you think that I have come to give peace on earth? No, I tell you, but rather division.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It&#039;s not like you stopped in here not to be contentious, is it? And you have the audacity to say such after this: &lt;blockquote&gt;I really have no time for this kind of ignorance. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;You know, this is absolutely pathetic, I watch people who should be normal, sane, and Christian, talking as though they have no clue about what the Word says. I see this why? I see this because of sick sad religious tradition that has rendered you numb to any thought of getting an ounce of truth from the Bible that you have so mercilessly sliced and diced to suit opinions and to avoid the Absolute that is the Word of God Himself.&lt;/blockquote&gt; Posh!

It is time we respected Nathan&#039;s request, sorry Nathan!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A fools continuous rambling:<br />
<blockquote>Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. And a person&#8217;s enemies will be those of his own household. Whoever loves father or mother more than me is not worthy of me, and whoever loves son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me&#8230;Do you think that I have come to give peace on earth? No, I tell you, but rather division.</p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s not like you stopped in here not to be contentious, is it? And you have the audacity to say such after this:<br />
<blockquote>I really have no time for this kind of ignorance. </p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>You know, this is absolutely pathetic, I watch people who should be normal, sane, and Christian, talking as though they have no clue about what the Word says. I see this why? I see this because of sick sad religious tradition that has rendered you numb to any thought of getting an ounce of truth from the Bible that you have so mercilessly sliced and diced to suit opinions and to avoid the Absolute that is the Word of God Himself.</p></blockquote>
<p> Posh!</p>
<p>It is time we respected Nathan&#8217;s request, sorry Nathan!</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://shepherdtheflock.com/2008/09/20/controversy-and-pulled-magazines-over-female-pastors/comment-page-2/#comment-2234</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 02:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You who stir up strife, this is my last post. You are equal to conversing with a drunken man. You hear nothing but what your drunken ears filter to your drunken mind. No amount of correction can move a fool from his continuous rambling. I am done with you.

The Anonymous Daniel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You who stir up strife, this is my last post. You are equal to conversing with a drunken man. You hear nothing but what your drunken ears filter to your drunken mind. No amount of correction can move a fool from his continuous rambling. I am done with you.</p>
<p>The Anonymous Daniel</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Twitchell</title>
		<link>http://shepherdtheflock.com/2008/09/20/controversy-and-pulled-magazines-over-female-pastors/comment-page-2/#comment-2232</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Twitchell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 01:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So now you claim you&#039;re greater than God that you can stop his will here on earth? What arrogance!

Repent Daniel, Christ&#039;s work is already finished. And it is you who question the will of God in thinking that you, blade of grass can stay the will of God. When you start doing &quot;greater&quot; works than Christ, i.e. being God, then we&#039;ll listen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So now you claim you&#8217;re greater than God that you can stop his will here on earth? What arrogance!</p>
<p>Repent Daniel, Christ&#8217;s work is already finished. And it is you who question the will of God in thinking that you, blade of grass can stay the will of God. When you start doing &#8220;greater&#8221; works than Christ, i.e. being God, then we&#8217;ll listen.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://shepherdtheflock.com/2008/09/20/controversy-and-pulled-magazines-over-female-pastors/comment-page-2/#comment-2231</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 01:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Liberty. If you could put the will of God into one word, that would be the word. God wants people to be free. Free from sin, sickness, poverty, oppression and every other curse.

That freedom is what Jesus came to provide. He said, &quot;The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor...to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised&quot; (Luke 4:18). That&#039;s what He trained His disciples to do. And if you&#039;re a born-again believer, that&#039;s what He wants you to do too!

Some people say, &quot;Well, I don&#039;t know about that. That may not be God&#039;s will for today.&quot;

But listen, the Bible says God never changes. He hasn&#039;t changed His will for the earth. He doesn&#039;t do one thing awhile and then go do another thing awhile. Jesus&#039; life was a perfect picture of God&#039;s will 2,000 years ago-- and it still is! That&#039;s why He left instructions for us to go and do the works that He did. That&#039;s why He sent the Holy Spirit to empower us to do them.

Jesus still wants to do the will of the Father here on earth--but He does it through us. He has to work with us until we&#039;re willing to lay down our traditions and let Him do His thing. That&#039;s what the early Church did. They started out with a bang because they did as Jesus taught them. Everywhere they went people became free.

Let&#039;s pray for the Church of today to deliver the liberty of God to the world. Let&#039;s quit questioning the will of God and start carrying it out instead. He said the works that He did we would do also and even greater works (John 14:12). It&#039;s time for us to take up where Jesus left off and set the captives free!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liberty. If you could put the will of God into one word, that would be the word. God wants people to be free. Free from sin, sickness, poverty, oppression and every other curse.</p>
<p>That freedom is what Jesus came to provide. He said, &#8220;The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor&#8230;to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised&#8221; (Luke 4:18). That&#8217;s what He trained His disciples to do. And if you&#8217;re a born-again believer, that&#8217;s what He wants you to do too!</p>
<p>Some people say, &#8220;Well, I don&#8217;t know about that. That may not be God&#8217;s will for today.&#8221;</p>
<p>But listen, the Bible says God never changes. He hasn&#8217;t changed His will for the earth. He doesn&#8217;t do one thing awhile and then go do another thing awhile. Jesus&#8217; life was a perfect picture of God&#8217;s will 2,000 years ago&#8211; and it still is! That&#8217;s why He left instructions for us to go and do the works that He did. That&#8217;s why He sent the Holy Spirit to empower us to do them.</p>
<p>Jesus still wants to do the will of the Father here on earth&#8211;but He does it through us. He has to work with us until we&#8217;re willing to lay down our traditions and let Him do His thing. That&#8217;s what the early Church did. They started out with a bang because they did as Jesus taught them. Everywhere they went people became free.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s pray for the Church of today to deliver the liberty of God to the world. Let&#8217;s quit questioning the will of God and start carrying it out instead. He said the works that He did we would do also and even greater works (John 14:12). It&#8217;s time for us to take up where Jesus left off and set the captives free!</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Twitchell</title>
		<link>http://shepherdtheflock.com/2008/09/20/controversy-and-pulled-magazines-over-female-pastors/comment-page-2/#comment-2230</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Twitchell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 00:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow- What a pleasure to finally meet Daniel, the anonymous first essentially righteous,  immortal, man.

The final plea for your repentance Daniel: &lt;blockquote&gt;For who regards you as superior? What do you have that you did not receive? And if you did receive it, why do you boast as if you had not received it? You are already filled, you have already become rich, you have become kings without us; and indeed, wish that you had become kings so that we also might reign with you. For, I think, God has exhibited us apostles last of all, as men condemned to death; because we have become a spectacle to the world, both to angels and to men. We are fools for Christ&#039;s sake, but you are prudent in Christ; we are weak, but you are strong; you are distinguished, but we are without honor. To this present hour we are both hungry and thirsty, and are poorly clothed, and are roughly treated, and are homeless; and we toil, working with our own hands; when we are reviled, we bless; when we are persecuted, we endure; when we are slandered, we try to conciliate; we have become as the scum of the world, the dregs of all things, {even} until now...Join with others in following my example, brothers, and take note of those who live according to the pattern we gave you. For, as I have often told you before and now say again even with tears, many live as enemies of the cross of Christ. Their destiny is destruction, their god is their stomach, and their glory is in their shame. Their mind is on earthly things. But our citizenship is in heaven. And we eagerly await a Savior from there, the Lord Jesus Christ, who, by the power that enables him to bring everything under his control, will transform our lowly bodies so that they will be like his glorious body.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow- What a pleasure to finally meet Daniel, the anonymous first essentially righteous,  immortal, man.</p>
<p>The final plea for your repentance Daniel:<br />
<blockquote>For who regards you as superior? What do you have that you did not receive? And if you did receive it, why do you boast as if you had not received it? You are already filled, you have already become rich, you have become kings without us; and indeed, wish that you had become kings so that we also might reign with you. For, I think, God has exhibited us apostles last of all, as men condemned to death; because we have become a spectacle to the world, both to angels and to men. We are fools for Christ&#8217;s sake, but you are prudent in Christ; we are weak, but you are strong; you are distinguished, but we are without honor. To this present hour we are both hungry and thirsty, and are poorly clothed, and are roughly treated, and are homeless; and we toil, working with our own hands; when we are reviled, we bless; when we are persecuted, we endure; when we are slandered, we try to conciliate; we have become as the scum of the world, the dregs of all things, {even} until now&#8230;Join with others in following my example, brothers, and take note of those who live according to the pattern we gave you. For, as I have often told you before and now say again even with tears, many live as enemies of the cross of Christ. Their destiny is destruction, their god is their stomach, and their glory is in their shame. Their mind is on earthly things. But our citizenship is in heaven. And we eagerly await a Savior from there, the Lord Jesus Christ, who, by the power that enables him to bring everything under his control, will transform our lowly bodies so that they will be like his glorious body.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 00:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really have no time for this kind of ignorance. You cannot see that Jesus went to great lengths to make you and I righteous. He did all that so that the sick could be healed, those in debt could be freed from that debt, those who have been victim could become victorious. 

The thing is that you are more willing to accept the Babylonian lifestyle that this gentile religious world you live in has handed you. Jesus gave His all for Us to be more than just beggars and live as mere men on this earth. Yes there is calamity and sin in this world but we as believers have been given the Word of God to supersede the sin and death. The Law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus freed us from the Law of Sin and Death. The scripture you are quoting is not complete, it is from the perception of a man who was seeing calamity and much sin around him. It is not the whole picture, the righteous are very much here and now. the righteous are righteous because Jesus made them that way. 

 We do not have to live according to the dictates of the curse, Jesus redeemed us from the curse. It is a sad thing that Christians live like those who have no covenant with God. Living every day as though Jesus never died for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really have no time for this kind of ignorance. You cannot see that Jesus went to great lengths to make you and I righteous. He did all that so that the sick could be healed, those in debt could be freed from that debt, those who have been victim could become victorious. </p>
<p>The thing is that you are more willing to accept the Babylonian lifestyle that this gentile religious world you live in has handed you. Jesus gave His all for Us to be more than just beggars and live as mere men on this earth. Yes there is calamity and sin in this world but we as believers have been given the Word of God to supersede the sin and death. The Law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus freed us from the Law of Sin and Death. The scripture you are quoting is not complete, it is from the perception of a man who was seeing calamity and much sin around him. It is not the whole picture, the righteous are very much here and now. the righteous are righteous because Jesus made them that way. </p>
<p> We do not have to live according to the dictates of the curse, Jesus redeemed us from the curse. It is a sad thing that Christians live like those who have no covenant with God. Living every day as though Jesus never died for them.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan White</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathan White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 00:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gentlemen,
I&#039;d appreciate it if you&#039;d wrap up the discussion if you don&#039;t mind. The conversation has strayed far from the original topic at hand, I&#039;ve just posted &lt;a href=&quot;http://shepherdtheflock.com/2008/09/24/the-apostle-pauls-personal-opinion/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;another article&lt;/a&gt; in hopes of diverting the attention back to the important stuff, and the number of comments here is getting beyond my ability to monitor. 

Get your last word in and/or take it offline. Of course, your other option is to take it back up in the comment section of my newest post, provided you guys stay somewhat on topic (I would consider a discussion of biblical interpretation to be on-topic there). 

Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gentlemen,<br />
I&#8217;d appreciate it if you&#8217;d wrap up the discussion if you don&#8217;t mind. The conversation has strayed far from the original topic at hand, I&#8217;ve just posted <a href="http://shepherdtheflock.com/2008/09/24/the-apostle-pauls-personal-opinion/" rel="nofollow">another article</a> in hopes of diverting the attention back to the important stuff, and the number of comments here is getting beyond my ability to monitor. </p>
<p>Get your last word in and/or take it offline. Of course, your other option is to take it back up in the comment section of my newest post, provided you guys stay somewhat on topic (I would consider a discussion of biblical interpretation to be on-topic there). </p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Twitchell</title>
		<link>http://shepherdtheflock.com/2008/09/20/controversy-and-pulled-magazines-over-female-pastors/comment-page-2/#comment-2226</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Twitchell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 00:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Daniel, do people die? Get sick, hunger, thirst. Are there earthquakes, typhoons, floods and fires, wars and pestilences?

Just how do you mean &lt;strong&gt;we do not have to live like the cursed&lt;/strong&gt;? And how does: &lt;blockquote&gt;Surely there is not a righteous man on earth who does good and never sins.&lt;/blockquote&gt; figure into their being no effects of the curse or: &lt;blockquote&gt;The righteous man perishes, and no one lays it to heart; devout men are taken away, while no one understands. For the righteous man is taken away from calamity; &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Reconcile them for us please, elucidate, give us wisdom, tell us what is the context?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Daniel, do people die? Get sick, hunger, thirst. Are there earthquakes, typhoons, floods and fires, wars and pestilences?</p>
<p>Just how do you mean <strong>we do not have to live like the cursed</strong>? And how does:<br />
<blockquote>Surely there is not a righteous man on earth who does good and never sins.</p></blockquote>
<p> figure into their being no effects of the curse or:<br />
<blockquote>The righteous man perishes, and no one lays it to heart; devout men are taken away, while no one understands. For the righteous man is taken away from calamity; </p></blockquote>
<p>Reconcile them for us please, elucidate, give us wisdom, tell us what is the context?</p>
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		<title>By: The Apostle Paul&#8217;s Personal Opinion? &#124; Shepherd the Flock</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Apostle Paul&#8217;s Personal Opinion? &#124; Shepherd the Flock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 00:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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