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		<title>By: Gordan</title>
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		<author>Gordan</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 12:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Nathan, thanks for the work involved to get this posted. Very powerful, and convicting, indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nathan, thanks for the work involved to get this posted. Very powerful, and convicting, indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: tim</title>
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		<author>tim</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 12:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I give a hearty "Amen!" to this post.  Orthodoxy should produce orthopraxy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I give a hearty &#8220;Amen!&#8221; to this post.  Orthodoxy should produce orthopraxy.</p>
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		<title>By: scott morgan</title>
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		<author>scott morgan</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 16:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Anybody,

    What is the best commentary out on Revelation that holds to the Amillennial view. I have Herman Hoeksema but what others would you recommend( Amill view of Revelation).  You can email me at scottmorgan33@yahoo.com . Sorry Nathan but I would like to get some helpful input on this. I have alot of commentaries but have just 2 on Revelation that hold to the amillennial view. Someone please help me on this.

    Scott Morgan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anybody,</p>
<p>    What is the best commentary out on Revelation that holds to the Amillennial view. I have Herman Hoeksema but what others would you recommend( Amill view of Revelation).  You can email me at <a href="mailto:scottmorgan33@yahoo.com">scottmorgan33@yahoo.com</a> . Sorry Nathan but I would like to get some helpful input on this. I have alot of commentaries but have just 2 on Revelation that hold to the amillennial view. Someone please help me on this.</p>
<p>    Scott Morgan</p>
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		<title>By: tim</title>
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		<author>tim</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 18:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Scott,

Kistemaker puts out a reformed view (idealist) on revelation.  Chilton puts out a preteristic commentary titled, "the days of vengeance".  Durham put out a commenary from a historicist point of view.  I believe all ar a-mil, possibly Chilton might rank under post-mil, though I haven't gotten the sense of that just yet.  I have the pdf files for chilton and durham, though durham is actually photocopies.  These were done before it actually came back into print so it is a bit harder to read.  The book is hugeand runs about $40.00.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott,</p>
<p>Kistemaker puts out a reformed view (idealist) on revelation.  Chilton puts out a preteristic commentary titled, &#8220;the days of vengeance&#8221;.  Durham put out a commenary from a historicist point of view.  I believe all ar a-mil, possibly Chilton might rank under post-mil, though I haven&#8217;t gotten the sense of that just yet.  I have the pdf files for chilton and durham, though durham is actually photocopies.  These were done before it actually came back into print so it is a bit harder to read.  The book is hugeand runs about $40.00.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan White</title>
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		<author>Nathan White</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 21:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Scott,

Great, on a Phil Johnson thread, you bring up Amillennialism :)

Regarding your question, there are two things to consider:

-Amill and post-mill are very similar, so any post-mill commentaries would be pretty much the same on the essentials. Post-mill, of course, just sees the time leading up to the 2nd coming of Christ much differently than the Amill. 

-Since I know your not a huge fan of the presbys, and that you prefer Baptist commentaries, I'm not sure I have a whole lot to offer you. But to give you a good start, and you can research who has commentaries and who doesn't, here is a list of sorts of Amill theologians, and a list of Amill confessions, &lt;a href="http://fide-o.blogspot.com/2006/08/quick-look-at-amillennialism.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;courtesy of the Fide-O guys&lt;/a&gt;:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Jay Adams
Oswald Allis
Augustine of Hippo
Richard Barcellos
Herman Bavinck
G. K. Beale
Louis Berkhof
G. C. Berkouwer
James P. Boyce
John Calvin
B. H. Carroll
Everett I Carver
Adam Clark
William Cox
John L. Dagg
Mark Dever
J. Ligon Duncan III
David Engelsma
Eusebius of Caesarea
Sinclair Ferguson
John Frame
Richard Gaffin, Jr.
William Grier
Henry Halley
Floyd Hamilton
Hank Hanegraaff
William Hendriksen
Charles Hill
Herschel Hobbs
Anthony Hoekema
Michael Horton
Lee Irons
Dennis Johnson
Martyn Lloyd-Jones
Tim Keller
Simon Kistemaker
Meredith Kline
Abraham Kuyper
Martin Luther
C. J. Mahaney
William Masselink
Phillip Mauro
Edward McDowell
Melancthon
Leon Morris
Edgar Mullins
George L. Murray
Iain Murray
John Murray
J. I. Packer
Albertus Pieters
A. W. Pink
Vern S. Poythress
Richard Pratt
Robert S. Rayburn
Herman Ridderbos
Kim Riddlebarger
Jason E. Robertson
O. Palmer Robertson
William Rutgers
L. R. Shelton
Sam Storms
Robert Strimple
Augustus H. Strong
Ray Summers
Cornelius Van Til
Cornelis Venema
Geerhardus Vos
Samuel Waldron
Bruce Waltke
B. B. Warfield
James White
Knox White
Martin Wyngaarden
E. J. Young
Huldrych Zwingli

Council of Ephesus, 431
Confession of the Evangelical Free Church of Geneva, 1848
The Westminster Confession of Faith, 1647
The London Baptist Confession, 1689
The New Hampshire Baptist Confession, 1833
Confession of the Free-Will Baptist, 1834
The Augsburg Confession
&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott,</p>
<p>Great, on a Phil Johnson thread, you bring up Amillennialism <img src='http://shepherdtheflock.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Regarding your question, there are two things to consider:</p>
<p>-Amill and post-mill are very similar, so any post-mill commentaries would be pretty much the same on the essentials. Post-mill, of course, just sees the time leading up to the 2nd coming of Christ much differently than the Amill. </p>
<p>-Since I know your not a huge fan of the presbys, and that you prefer Baptist commentaries, I&#8217;m not sure I have a whole lot to offer you. But to give you a good start, and you can research who has commentaries and who doesn&#8217;t, here is a list of sorts of Amill theologians, and a list of Amill confessions, <a href="http://fide-o.blogspot.com/2006/08/quick-look-at-amillennialism.html" rel="nofollow">courtesy of the Fide-O guys</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Jay Adams<br />
Oswald Allis<br />
Augustine of Hippo<br />
Richard Barcellos<br />
Herman Bavinck<br />
G. K. Beale<br />
Louis Berkhof<br />
G. C. Berkouwer<br />
James P. Boyce<br />
John Calvin<br />
B. H. Carroll<br />
Everett I Carver<br />
Adam Clark<br />
William Cox<br />
John L. Dagg<br />
Mark Dever<br />
J. Ligon Duncan III<br />
David Engelsma<br />
Eusebius of Caesarea<br />
Sinclair Ferguson<br />
John Frame<br />
Richard Gaffin, Jr.<br />
William Grier<br />
Henry Halley<br />
Floyd Hamilton<br />
Hank Hanegraaff<br />
William Hendriksen<br />
Charles Hill<br />
Herschel Hobbs<br />
Anthony Hoekema<br />
Michael Horton<br />
Lee Irons<br />
Dennis Johnson<br />
Martyn Lloyd-Jones<br />
Tim Keller<br />
Simon Kistemaker<br />
Meredith Kline<br />
Abraham Kuyper<br />
Martin Luther<br />
C. J. Mahaney<br />
William Masselink<br />
Phillip Mauro<br />
Edward McDowell<br />
Melancthon<br />
Leon Morris<br />
Edgar Mullins<br />
George L. Murray<br />
Iain Murray<br />
John Murray<br />
J. I. Packer<br />
Albertus Pieters<br />
A. W. Pink<br />
Vern S. Poythress<br />
Richard Pratt<br />
Robert S. Rayburn<br />
Herman Ridderbos<br />
Kim Riddlebarger<br />
Jason E. Robertson<br />
O. Palmer Robertson<br />
William Rutgers<br />
L. R. Shelton<br />
Sam Storms<br />
Robert Strimple<br />
Augustus H. Strong<br />
Ray Summers<br />
Cornelius Van Til<br />
Cornelis Venema<br />
Geerhardus Vos<br />
Samuel Waldron<br />
Bruce Waltke<br />
B. B. Warfield<br />
James White<br />
Knox White<br />
Martin Wyngaarden<br />
E. J. Young<br />
Huldrych Zwingli</p>
<p>Council of Ephesus, 431<br />
Confession of the Evangelical Free Church of Geneva, 1848<br />
The Westminster Confession of Faith, 1647<br />
The London Baptist Confession, 1689<br />
The New Hampshire Baptist Confession, 1833<br />
Confession of the Free-Will Baptist, 1834<br />
The Augsburg Confession
</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: scott morgan</title>
		<link>http://shepherdtheflock.com/2007/05/17/live-blogging-phil-johnson-right-doctrine-and-right-living-are-inextricably-connected/#comment-287</link>
		<author>scott morgan</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 21:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Nathan,

   Thanks ! I know of Ray Summers and I will order that from the Baptist Standard Bearer. Also, I hear alot about Beale. Please know that I have all the Banner of Truth sets by the Presbyterians and the Geneva commentaries and I love my Presbyterian brothers and sisters. I really do ! I have to talk to the PCA pastor that looked me in the face and said that Baptism and the Lord's Supper are means ( To) Grace. When I said to him how can you say this when only believers can be baptized(Immersion) and take the Lord's Supper so how can they be means (To) Grace ? I enjoyed reading JP and we use the chatechism that he shared. Always good to talk and email between us. We will always be known as the FBCW Calvinist Guys ! We will always have this in common. 
     BTW, our church is growing spiritually and numerically. We have baptized two Presbyterian families recently and have a girl who was just converted a few months ago to be baptized. I'm still concerned about how some of our new Calvinistic Baptists serve the Lord's Supper to unbaptized Presbyterians and even some that have been around. Baptists are not throughly Reformed. In our view on Salvation and the Scriptures and some government(Yes). With me being amill and serving wine in the supper someone might think I'm on my way but I'm an Old School Baptist ! Gill not Fuller ! We are serving the supper only to members and take it once a month.
      Please know how much I appreciate your blog and commitment to the Scriptures in your studying. Again, you will make a fine Pastor one day. You and Timmy both I believe will be used mightly of God to minister in our Baptist churches.My last BTW, If I hear one more time" Scott you mean you wouldn't serve the Lord's Supper to RC, Lloyd Jones, Dabney" No ! I wouldn't serve it to Spurgeon, Gill, Keach, Booth, Philpot, Brine, and whatever Calvinistic Baptist because we believe it is a local church ordinance.We serve the Supper only to church members in good standing. You see I'm not out to get the Presbyterians ! Love you brother !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nathan,</p>
<p>   Thanks ! I know of Ray Summers and I will order that from the Baptist Standard Bearer. Also, I hear alot about Beale. Please know that I have all the Banner of Truth sets by the Presbyterians and the Geneva commentaries and I love my Presbyterian brothers and sisters. I really do ! I have to talk to the PCA pastor that looked me in the face and said that Baptism and the Lord&#8217;s Supper are means ( To) Grace. When I said to him how can you say this when only believers can be baptized(Immersion) and take the Lord&#8217;s Supper so how can they be means (To) Grace ? I enjoyed reading JP and we use the chatechism that he shared. Always good to talk and email between us. We will always be known as the FBCW Calvinist Guys ! We will always have this in common.<br />
     BTW, our church is growing spiritually and numerically. We have baptized two Presbyterian families recently and have a girl who was just converted a few months ago to be baptized. I&#8217;m still concerned about how some of our new Calvinistic Baptists serve the Lord&#8217;s Supper to unbaptized Presbyterians and even some that have been around. Baptists are not throughly Reformed. In our view on Salvation and the Scriptures and some government(Yes). With me being amill and serving wine in the supper someone might think I&#8217;m on my way but I&#8217;m an Old School Baptist ! Gill not Fuller ! We are serving the supper only to members and take it once a month.<br />
      Please know how much I appreciate your blog and commitment to the Scriptures in your studying. Again, you will make a fine Pastor one day. You and Timmy both I believe will be used mightly of God to minister in our Baptist churches.My last BTW, If I hear one more time&#8221; Scott you mean you wouldn&#8217;t serve the Lord&#8217;s Supper to RC, Lloyd Jones, Dabney&#8221; No ! I wouldn&#8217;t serve it to Spurgeon, Gill, Keach, Booth, Philpot, Brine, and whatever Calvinistic Baptist because we believe it is a local church ordinance.We serve the Supper only to church members in good standing. You see I&#8217;m not out to get the Presbyterians ! Love you brother !</p>
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		<title>By: tim</title>
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		<author>tim</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2007 11:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Scott,

That Lord's Supper and the local church thing is really a pet peeve to you, huh? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott,</p>
<p>That Lord&#8217;s Supper and the local church thing is really a pet peeve to you, huh? <img src='http://shepherdtheflock.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Gordan</title>
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		<author>Gordan</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 00:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Scott, you might also add a Ray Frank Robbins to your list of Baptist amil guys who wrote a commentary on Revelation. I think it was Baker that published it, probably in the 70's.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott, you might also add a Ray Frank Robbins to your list of Baptist amil guys who wrote a commentary on Revelation. I think it was Baker that published it, probably in the 70&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: scott morgan</title>
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		<author>scott morgan</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 15:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Tim, 

  You got it ! I would love to talk with you sometime. Please send me your number scottmorgan33@yahoo.com  . Let me pay for the call on my dime. 

   Scott Morgan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim, </p>
<p>  You got it ! I would love to talk with you sometime. Please send me your number <a href="mailto:scottmorgan33@yahoo.com">scottmorgan33@yahoo.com</a>  . Let me pay for the call on my dime. </p>
<p>   Scott Morgan</p>
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		<title>By: scott morgan</title>
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		<author>scott morgan</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 15:41:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Gordon, 

   Thanks so much ! I have put it on my list to get. 

    Scott Morgan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gordon, </p>
<p>   Thanks so much ! I have put it on my list to get. </p>
<p>    Scott Morgan</p>
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